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William
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 Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject: Glengoyne 25 Year Old Added To Core Range |
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Glengoyne have added a £250  Glengoyne 25 year old to its core range of whiskies! Matured exclusively in hand-selected European oak sherry casks for a quarter of a century the 25 year old will sit at the top of the Glengoyne core range of whiskies.
I would hope that the new Glengoyne 25 year old can match the outstanding sherry cask matured Glengoyne 21 year old for quality and isn't blighted by the dreaded sulphur like some of the Glengoyne core range can be, such as the very disappointing and not cheap 18 year old.
Talking of price the new 25 year old has a RRP of £250, which is a big ask at around £155 MORE than the current price for the superb Glengoyne 21 year old. Obviously Glengoyne rate the 25 very highly, I would hope that it is a very good expression given its price tag and not a "miss" in Glengoyne's sometimes "hit or miss" (as far as sulphur is concerned) core range.
More info here including the official tasting note:
www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/glengoyne25yearold.htm
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bifter
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Liquorice can sometimes be a euphemistic descriptor for sulphur but, other than that, the official notes sound OK. It is a big price tag, as we seem to be coming to expect of new releases these days, I shan't dwell on it. Another [sigh] from me.
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chrisg
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| I agree the Glengoyne 21 is an excellent big sherried whisky but £155 more for the 25 year old |
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drPete
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Such a shame they priced it that way.
Teapot dram is a riot of a whisky
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whisky_rob
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| I fail to see how this can be twice as expensive or good as Glenfarclas 25 for example which is circa £110. Like almost every new release overpriced. |
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Alexppp
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| Agree with what's been said above. Great colour though. |
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Innes
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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That is a very odd pricing scale that Glengoyne are using or perhaps ot is a sign that they intend ramping up the the younger whiskies
| drPete wrote: | Such a shame they priced it that way.
Teapot dram is a riot of a whisky |
I had a bottle of the Teapot dram, brilliant. The 21 is also excellent and i used to like the 17 year old but not had a bottle of the new 18 year old. |
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Alastair
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| I agree the Glengoyne 21 is excellent but the price of the new 25 is mad, looks like they have shot it right over the heads of whisky drinkers and are obviously aiming for the premium gifting market who will buy based on price assuming it means quality. |
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Grant M
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| That is crazy pricing considering the 21 is £93 over at TWE which is probably in line with other whiskies of this age |
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Archer
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| It does look deliciously dark in colour, damn shame about their pricing on it, £150 - £180 would have been pushing it but £250 is asking way too much no matter what the reviews may say. I would love to hear what anyone thinks of it if they do get a chance to taste it. |
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albo
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Not sure what the ho-ha is in here about the prices? The discussion in the what would you pay thread sees a 10yo Bowmore being rated at between £80 & £100, I don't see a 25yo at 1.5x the price of a 10yo being out of line at all?
Perhaps Glengoyne need to invest more on marketing their products and coming up with a fancy name and story to make the price more palatable?
Whisky prices for distillery bottles are currently silly. Buy it, don't buy it, its up to you and I guarantee Glengoyne don't give a hoot what you or I think of the prices. |
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Bookie
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| albo wrote: | Not sure what the ho-ha is in here about the prices? The discussion in the what would you pay thread sees a 10yo Bowmore being rated at between £80 & £100, I don't see a 25yo at 1.5x the price of a 10yo being out of line at all?
Perhaps Glengoyne need to invest more on marketing their products and coming up with a fancy name and story to make the price more palatable?
Whisky prices for distillery bottles are currently silly. Buy it, don't buy it, its up to you and I guarantee Glengoyne don't give a hoot what you or I think of the prices. |
 The price people say they would pay for the Bowmore 10 is for the Bowmore Devils Cask which was a limited release and virtually sold out before it hit the shelves it was a limited release worldwide of 6000 so there wouldnt have been that many here in the UK, it had a £50 release price, it had good reviews, i really dont think people saying they would pay £80 - £100 to get hold of a bottle is over the top in fact the oposite and i know it would probably be impossible to get a bottle at anywhere near £100. Bowmore has many fans and collectors, some on this forum and when this whisky sold out the value of it was always going to go up.
The new Glengoyne 25 joins the Glengoyne core range it is not a limited release and would never really be considered to be collectable and with it being £155 more than the 4 years younger 21 year old, it is a helluva step up in price. The ho-ha here as you put it is obvious to me. |
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albo
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| Bookie wrote: | | albo wrote: | Not sure what the ho-ha is in here about the prices? The discussion in the what would you pay thread sees a 10yo Bowmore being rated at between £80 & £100, I don't see a 25yo at 1.5x the price of a 10yo being out of line at all?
Perhaps Glengoyne need to invest more on marketing their products and coming up with a fancy name and story to make the price more palatable?
Whisky prices for distillery bottles are currently silly. Buy it, don't buy it, its up to you and I guarantee Glengoyne don't give a hoot what you or I think of the prices. |
The price people say they would pay for the Bowmore 10 is for the Bowmore Devils Cask which was a limited release and virtually sold out before it hit the shelves it was a limited release worldwide of 6000 so there wouldnt have been that many here in the UK, it had a £50 release price, it had good reviews, i really dont think people saying they would pay £80 - £100 to get hold of a bottle is over the top in fact the oposite and i know it would probably be impossible to get a bottle at anywhere near £100. Bowmore has many fans and collectors, some on this forum and when this whisky sold out the value of it was always going to go up.
The new Glengoyne 25 joins the Glengoyne core range it is not a limited release and would never really be considered to be collectable and with it being £155 more than the 4 years younger 21 year old, it is a helluva step up in price. The ho-ha here as you put it is obvious to me. |
I don't see why this Glengoyne looks out of place price wise at all??
Mortlach 18yo - £180
Mortlach 25yo - £600
HP Freya 15yo - £140
HP 25 - £250
Griven 25yo - £250
Laphroig 25 - £320 - £499
In fact take into account with the above, it's priced at the lower end of the spectrum. I've not looked into all the OB releases, just from the last few pages of the forum.
HP Freya got defended at the price, nobody has said a thing about the HP 25, nor the Laphroig, the Griven got away lightly and thats a grain whisky and the Mortlach.... well I think we all agree that they have somewhat lost the plot. |
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albo
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Going quickly through the Royal Mile Whisky and Whisky exchange websites here is a list of the prices for OB 25yo bottles, all of these to my knowledge are redily available and thus not collectable etc etc
Benriach - £140
Bowmore - £295
Bunna - £219
Dalmore £599
Dalwinnie - £185
Glenfarclas - £115
Glenlivet - £200
Glenmorangie - £245
Laphroig - £310
Talisker - £240
Tamdhu - £245
Tulli - £165
CI - £165
Glen Moray - £150
HP - £250
Mortlach - £600
Griven - £250
Glengoyne - £245
Aberfeldy - £350
Speyburn - £200
Glengoyne sit quarely in the middle of that little lot, their price is in no way out of line with the rest of the industry as far as 25yo bottles go.
Do I personally think it's over priced, yes I do, but I think most of the industry is madness at the moment. I just don't get the hate for Glengoyne |
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drPete
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Hello Mortlach and Dalmore.......
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