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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:07 am    Post subject: Fake Whisky Story on BBC Reply with quote

Third of rare Scotch whiskies tested found to be fake.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-46566703
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I Prefer drinking the stuff rather than staring at it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The samples had been sent for analysis by whisky broker Rare Whisky 101 (RW101), which said it was responding to "growing concern surrounding the proliferation of fake whisky" in the secondary market."


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidbe wrote:
"The best probiotics for men samples had been sent for analysis by whisky broker Rare Whisky 101 (RW101), which said it was responding to "growing concern surrounding the proliferation of fake whisky" in the secondary market."


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God's honest truth, I'm not sure I'd be able to taste the difference. Just not experienced enough yet haha. This is worrying though.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great to see the BBC picking this story up and highlighting it.

For anyone interested I had posted a little more detailed piece on the Rare Whisky 101's findings on the fake whisky problem here:

http://www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/rw101exposefakewhisky.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terribly misleading/alarmist/sensationalist headline unfortunately.

Really the headline is "Only 1/3 of a small numbers of sample whiskies thought to be fake by experts turn our to be fake when tested by specilaist lab" Not v catchy I know...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its sad but probably typical of any market expanding.

When I hear on local Devon radio this week an antiques expert from a well known auction house, telling people to invest in whisky as the last two most expensive bottles of whisky in the world were sold here, clearly more and more people will get involved.

Dont really care about the facts behind that but when it becomes a cash and grab situation on advice from auction houses, someone is going to get burned.

It does also seem a little ironic that the very last thing you would want to do with an investment whisky is actually open the thing. It might be a fake? You might not get your money back? Best keep em closed eh!

Rare 101 must have copped a load of dodgy ones and the costs, or are they testiing others bottles? Will read the article again.

For me it only is a worry for auction stuff but because I am a low value buyer I am hoping the fakers leave them alone. I don't hold out much hope though in the long run.

At least it is being exposed so fair play to 101 for that..
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I very, very rarely buy at auction. When I do, it is usually bottles that wouldn't be worthwhile faking.

Rather, I buy from a small number of trusted retailers and indie bottlers.

Even then, if I'm not buying a new release, I ask the retailer in detail about provenance.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly there may have been some selective choices of what got put forward for testing but none the less the percentage of fakes found is staggering. Questions have to be asked of the whisky auctions which are selling fakes them but take no responsibility if a buyer gets stung.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does occur to me that I might be helping fuel the issue by buying at auction, but I have enjoyed buying things I can't get at retail or if I can its ridiculous prices.

Might have to consider changing my buying habits, small thought they are..
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent Forum thread!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting story. Guess are due to see more of this with the increase in whisky being used as an investment. Rolling Eyes Great to see a good discussion around the topic Smile
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