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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:23 pm    Post subject: Question about Source Water of Scotland-Speyside Reply with quote

I was given a 100cl bottle of Uisge Source Water of Scotland-Speyside from the Cairngorms Well, Moray at a tasting with Georgie Bell in Toronto a while back. I decided to open it and use some drops with my cask strength Glenfiddich 15 Distillery Edition and it really worked wonders with only a few drops. How long do you think the water bottle can be used to add to scotch before it goes "bad", days, weeks? The container has a twist top cap and a good seal.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If is in a plastic bottle, no longer than a month or two (properly stored in the dark, cold place); in the glass much longer. Open bottle - max a week.
These are just my rules I'm following for diluting malts with quality mineral/soft water.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diademo wrote:
If is in a plastic bottle, no longer than a month or two (properly stored in the dark, cold place); in the glass much longer. Open bottle - max a week.
These are just my rules I'm following for diluting malts with quality mineral/soft water.


It's a glass bottle. The 10cl goes for almost 4.30 British pounds, that's almost $9. CDN.
I would think it would be made to last a while once open if one is only using a dropper. I did just contact the producer but haven't heard back yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put the bottle in the fridge and before using it, leave it at the room temperature for a while.
BTW what's the price per drop? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diademo wrote:
Put the bottle in the fridge and before using it, leave it at the room temperature for a while.
BTW what's the price per drop? Very Happy


25 drops in a millilitre. 10 millilitres in 10cl so that's 250 drops per bottle. Bottle is $9. CDN. So that's 3.6 cents Canadian a drop. Details are my specialty....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In theory you should be able to keep it for years if sealed in a good airtight bottle but I would say any bottle of water will go a little flat once opened and resealed, although ok to drink it will loss its quality.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you create a simple air tight seal on it, ptfe tape or even cellotape, in a glass bottle I would say left in a dark place it will still be good long after you are no longer with us. At least 100 years, probably longer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always put some argon gas into the bottle like they do with wine to keep it from oxidising...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Water doesn't oxidise like that, if anything carbon dioxide will disolve into it.

It's not alcohol, which kills bateria, it's water. Bacteria grow in stagnant water, even if it's in the fridge, so if it's open then I wouldnt like to drink it any longer than a week after its open. Maybe 2 weeks max if refrigerated. Using a neutral gas layer will stop any air interation/gas exchange, but it won't stop bacteria growing as this will have gotten into to bottle as soon as it was opened.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I don't necessarily agree with Opel - I do see his point. Although that assumes the bacteria will automatically grow and become someway active. Although I'm no scientist.

To solve this dilemma why don't you freeze it and use when needed? Just not as ice Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, I just came across a fascinating article called: "Can water spoil?" with comments by Truls Krogh, director of the Department of Water Hygiene at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health.

Please read the whole article but here's a few snippets:

"If the water is covered and of good quality to start with, in principle it can last a thousand years,"? he says.

"Of course there can't be much organic matter in the water, which there isn't in the water most Norwegian homes have on tap. As long as it's been contained in a closed bottle that doesn't let any substances into the contents it can keep for years without becoming dangerous to drink,"? says Krogh.
Even if the bottle has been opened and you've taken a few swigs right from it."

"Just fill well-cleaned glass bottles with tap water and close them tightly. The water will last your entire life, in fact longer."

http://sciencenordic.com/can-water-spoil

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, he's the director of water hygiene. Lets say he's right Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opelfruit wrote:
Well, he's the director of water hygiene. Lets say he's right Very Happy


I'm no director of anything. Oh, what - him. I see Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had too many problems with spoiled water in my life - I'm not risking my malts because some theoretical quarrels from academic who probably drinks only French mineral water: Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diademo wrote:
I had too many problems with spoiled water in my life - I'm not risking my malts because some theoretical quarrels from academic who probably drinks only French mineral water: Rolling Eyes


I beg to differ on this point. He clearly is not just an academic with an opinion nor simply a theorist but the Director of the Department of Water Hygiene at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health. Public Health there or anywhere else for that matter is a department responsible for the public water system and any possible contagion and his statements would be based on public safety priorities and facts and not on conjecture or academic projection without a solid empirical base.

More about the Institute- "The NIPH acts as a national competence institution for governmental authorities, the health service, the judiciary, prosecuting authorities, politicians, the media and the general public. Main objectives: Health surveillance to give a good overview of the population's health; research to give the best knowledge about what affects public health; and prevention i.e. good preparedness, advice and services of high quality"

Good enough for me!
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