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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject: 21 y old Malt help? Reply with quote

Hi, just looking for some advice for a newbie here....my nephew is 21 shortly and i am looking to buy a 21 y old malt for him.....not to drink but for an investment...any advice?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's your budget?

Generally, if you want something of this age from one of the big players in the investment market then you'll need some hefty outlay upfront and a long time to sit on it for it to appreciate.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i have noticed some of the prices.....what about any bottle for around £50- £100?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not, that's just normal prices for these whiskies, infact you may struggle to even get a 21yo for that range, most will be 18yrs.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Springbank-years-old-2014-release/dp/B00BCZIGCG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409248466&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=springbank+21

If you can find £200+ then this is a winner. Certain places it's already going for twice that amount.

Springbank don't do 21yr olds.....think this is the first (or maybe 2nd) one ever and their oldest release to-date.

Guarenteed to go up in value well - it's also a good dram (had a sample) if he does decide to drink it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that....a few of us may go together for something decent...cheers!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you from, I can recommend some 21 year old whiskies for an okay price.

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=620096

Glenfarclas 21 for 129 USD.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lots of good 21 year olds for drinking between £50 and £100: you can always count on Glenfarclas for example, and the Glendronach Parliament and Old Pulteney 21 year olds are superb as well. But if you're looking for a profit down the road, it's both harder to predict and a bigger budget is needed in order to go for things like limited editions, 'cult' distilleries and so on.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I'm thinking about it, a truly special bottle would be a special release Rosebank 21.

https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/rosebank-21-year-old-2011-release-whisky/#!/product/whiskies/rosebank-21-year-old-2011-release-whisky/


not easy to find. I've got a case hidden away when they were still about. Rosebank is closed, gone, shut, dead, so there will never be any more. In 7 or 8 any aging stock will be gone and then that's it......It goes the way of Port Ellen. In the long run there will be very very large price rises. It's a beautiful and rare dram and a lovely bottle to have.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am keeping my eye on Glenfarclas for my brothers 21st birthday, just five years to go.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had looked at the Glenfarclas 21....may just go for it
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an above average dram, but there are better in my opinion. Also, it's a drinking dram and not a keeping/investing dram.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a fan of the Glenfarclas 21, but as opelfruit says it's not an investing dram. In 20 years' time it may be worth a few pounds more than a new bottle (since the label design will have probably changed by then etc.) but that's about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tomintoul 21 is a favorite of mine and goes for 67 British pounds across the pond. It's a lovely drop regardless of the reason for getting it. It's $179.00 Canadian dollars here. The price has crept up a bit here so it may be an indication of some increasing value. Who knows....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quaich1 wrote:
The Tomintoul 21 is a favorite of mine and goes for 67 British pounds across the pond. It's a lovely drop regardless of the reason for getting it. It's $179.00 Canadian dollars here. The price has crept up a bit here so it may be an indication of some increasing value. Who knows....
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P.S. In 2009 Tomintoul entered the Guinness Book of World Records by producing the largest bottle of whisky in the world, containing 105.3 litres of 14 year old Tomintoul malt whisky.
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This will be the bottle you are referring to
http://www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=731



I am sure most 21 year old men would like one of these Smile

Seriously though most 21 year old standard core range distillery bottlings will not be a good investment as they are likely to always be available. You should really look at limited edition releases for a investment. How about trying to get hold of a bottle of the forthcoming release of Ardbeg Supernova 2014. http://www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/ardbegsupernova2014.htm

This should be a good long term investment.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the comments.....any thoughts on this one? http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-19797.aspx
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