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Mr C Triple Malt Member

Joined: 11 May 2014 Posts: 217 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: "white floaters" |
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Hi All
Has anyone ever experienced the below in their Whisky?
Thanks, Mr C |
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McKay Master Of Malts

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I have come across char from the barrel in whiskies which have only been lightly filtered. You can also get particles appearing when whisky hasnt been chill filtered and it is bottled below 46%. If a bottle hasnt been stored upright the cork can degrade and you can get bits of the cork in the whisky. |
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts


Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5749 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: "white floaters" |
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| Mr C wrote: | Hi All
Has anyone ever experienced the below in their Whisky?
Thanks, Mr C |
Mr. C, I have not encountered floaters in my scotch collection myself but I have heard that the white particles are probably fatty acids that become solid when the temperature drops (while being transported perhaps). In some climates they can stay that way, although they'll usually become invisible at room temperature. I also heard that they are more common in non-chill filtered whiskies though not exclusively. _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
W.C. Fields (1880-1946) |
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Frankie Master Of Malts

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| To me it does look like bits off the cork, have you opened it, if so is the cork 100% OK. If you havent opened it and it is not a non-chill-filtered bottling i would say return it to where you bought it of contact the distillery who produced it. |
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Mr C Triple Malt Member

Joined: 11 May 2014 Posts: 217 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all
Thanks for your input, Ive received the following:
"I have checked this with our whisky expert who has assured me it's absolutely fine. It is due to the dip in the base of the bottle, which then causes the oils to collect in the bottom over time.
I am really not sure if I should hand it back or not!  |
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Calder Master Of Malts

Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 691
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr C wrote: | Hi all
Thanks for your input, Ive received the following:
"I have checked this with our whisky expert who has assured me it's absolutely fine. It is due to the dip in the base of the bottle, which then causes the oils to collect in the bottom over time.
I am really not sure if I should hand it back or not!  | If this was true then all the bottles i have stored away, some for many years would be like this and they are not, it is probably ok to drink but i would ask for it to be replaced.What is the whisky? |
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Mr C Triple Malt Member

Joined: 11 May 2014 Posts: 217 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Calder wrote: | | Mr C wrote: | Hi all
Thanks for your input, Ive received the following:
"I have checked this with our whisky expert who has assured me it's absolutely fine. It is due to the dip in the base of the bottle, which then causes the oils to collect in the bottom over time.
I am really not sure if I should hand it back or not!  | If this was true then all the bottles i have stored away, some for many years would be like this and they are not, it is probably ok to drink but i would ask for it to be replaced.What is the whisky? |
It's Glenrothes 1988 |
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Alexppp Master Of Malts

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks like a Glenrothes, I think? Is it chill-filtered or not? If it has been chill-filtered I'd be surprised if they were fatty acids but it's probably ok to drink anyway. |
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jcarrick Master Of Malts

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| In my experience of non chill filltered whisky bottled under 46% I have only saw very fine particles when the whisky gets cold making the whisky appear cloudy/hazy, i havent seen such large particles appear such as those shown in the images above. I dont think the Glenrothes 1988 was non chill-filtered (correct me if i am wrong) and if i am right then you shouldnt be seeing fatty acids appearing, it was a an excellent rich citrussy fruity whisky with a bit of oak spice, enjoy if you open it and i hope it is okay. |
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Alexppp Master Of Malts

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Hang on, just realised this is your special purchase that you plan to open with your son when he's 18 - if that's the case, then definitely return it. No point feeling in two minds about it, even if it's fine to drink. I'm sure they'll be happy to send a replacement bottle. |
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Diademo Master Of Malts

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: |
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It's Glenrothes 1988 |
I had two bottles of Glenrothes 1988 - both without particles inside. Try to put bottle in the warmer room. |
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Millie_chops Double Malt Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| Alexppp wrote: | | Hang on, just realised this is your special purchase that you plan to open with your son when he's 18 - if that's the case, then definitely return it. No point feeling in two minds about it, even if it's fine to drink. I'm sure they'll be happy to send a replacement bottle. |
Exactly what I was thinking. You should be looking forward to opening this bottle and you have doubts in your mind. I would be asking them to replace it with another if those particles don't disappear soon.
I did have a similar thing with a bottle of springbank but it seemed to settle down once it had been at room temperature for a few days. |
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Bookie Master Of Malts

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| If the particles dont disappear in a warmer room then i would say return it. |
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Mr C Triple Malt Member

Joined: 11 May 2014 Posts: 217 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Hi all,
I didn't take the chance and I've sent it back. They've also confirmed the rest of their stock is the same so I've asked for a return, the said company have been brilliant to be fair.
So, perhaps Glenfarclas family cask 1988 ! |
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Alexppp Master Of Malts

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Good decision I think, given the importance of the bottle. And possibly a blessing in disguise if it leads to a 25 year-old cask strength Glenfarclas from a single cask! |
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