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William
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 Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:44 am Post subject: Girvan Patent Still 25 Year Old Single Grain Whisky |
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As has I have already mentioned on here William Grant has broke away from whisky conventions and released The Girvan Patent Still Single Grain 25 Year Old the first in a new core range of single grain whiskies from the Girvan distillery which will be exclusively available only in the UK. So is grain whisky the neutral spirit many whisky drinkers think it to be, this is what I thought of the new whisky:
www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/girvanpatentstillsinglegrain.htm
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Quaich1
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Girvan Patent Still 25 Year Old Single Grain Whisky |
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| William wrote: | As has I have already mentioned on here William Grant has broke away from whisky conventions and released The Girvan Patent Still Single Grain 25 Year Old the first in a new core range of single grain whiskies from the Girvan distillery which will be exclusively available only in the UK. So is grain whisky the neutral spirit many whisky drinkers think it to be, this is what I thought of the new whisky:
www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/girvanpatentstillsinglegrain.htm |
William, your taste notes portray a lovely whisky with a lot of character and the benefits of aging gracefully.
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albo
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£245 that really is a horror show of a price.
I picked up a 25yo malt the other day for £77.
I only hope this fails spectacularly. |
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bifter
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At it.
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bifter
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Putting aside the cost for a second I am curious, William. Is this grain qualitatively different from similarly aged IB bottlings in your estimation? Also, your tasting notes don't mention what I usually discern as glue/printing ink notes that are ubiquitous in grains in my experience. Is this what you mean by the Bourbon/corn character?
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| I agree William this will be a real hard sell for William Grant, i think they have misjudged the market with their pricing here which is a shame as a original distillery core range of single grain whisky at a decent price would have been very welcome. |
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bifter
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| Quote: | | As none of the Scotch grain whisky distilleries bottled their own single grain whisky, whisky drinkers have had to seek out the limited amount of single grain whisky bottlings available from independent bottlers such as Compass Box or Douglas Laing's Clan Denny, that is until now! |
I thought Cameronbridge produced their own bottling? Not trying to pick holes! I just wondered it's actually bottled and sold by someone else than Diageo. If not, is this actually a marketing claim by WG?
http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/cameron-brig-whisky/?srh=1
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| bifter wrote: | | Quote: | | As none of the Scotch grain whisky distilleries bottled their own single grain whisky, whisky drinkers have had to seek out the limited amount of single grain whisky bottlings available from independent bottlers such as Compass Box or Douglas Laing's Clan Denny, that is until now! |
I thought Cameronbridge produced their own bottling? Not trying to pick holes! I just wondered it's actually bottled and sold by someone else than Diageo. If not, is this actually a marketing claim by W&M?
http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/cameron-brig-whisky/?srh=1 |
AFAIK there has been special limited release original distillery bottlings from all of the Scotch grain distilleries over the years but no ongoing core range original distillery bottlings in existance but i am often wrong just ask my wife she will verify that 
I would imagine these Girvan bottlings will be very good as they will have an enormous stock to choose from so they are bound to find some very good stuff amongst their maturing stock that would give any single malt a run for your money, but it is the money which is the sore point here as tany informed whisky drinker will know there has been some superb indie bottlings of this age and older for less than half the price. |
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Islay Pete
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No i dont think there has ever been an ongoing core range of Scotch single grain whisky.
I have noticed that the prices of indie bottles of older grain whisky has risen sharply in recent times (just like single malt has), i suppose when WGs enter the marketplace with these prices then the indies can ask more and not look greedy.
Whats the betting the indies are now digging the single grain whisky casks out from the back of their warehouses knowing WGs have just increased their retail value. |
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William
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| bifter wrote: | | Putting aside the cost for a second I am curious, William. Is this grain qualitatively different from similarly aged IB bottlings in your estimation? Also, your tasting notes don't mention what I usually discern as glue/printing ink notes that are ubiquitous in grains in my experience. Is this what you mean by the Bourbon/corn character? |
By there very nature one single grain whisky is different from another and I really couldn't say what you distinguish as glue/printing notes they are not notes which i found or i would have mentioned them.
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Cheers for you notes William which i have no problem comprehending, it is clear to me what you mean by Kentucky bourbon and Canadian corn character, styles which i am very familiar with but some appear to be unfamiliar with or perhaps they have another problem  |
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bifter
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Better to be conceived amiss than misconceived.
Appreciate the notes William. I'll keep an eye out for this at tasting events.
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Mark
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| Big Mac wrote: | | Cheers for you notes William which i have no problem comprehending, it is clear to me what you mean by Kentucky bourbon and Canadian corn character, styles which i am very familiar with but some appear to be unfamiliar with or perhaps they have another problem |
Yes cheers William. It does look now like Scotch single grain whisky has been premiumised over night or at least they are attempting to do that just like they have done with single malt. And i am sure the independent bottlers who have been the main source of grain whisky until now will be happy with WG's lead and why wouldnt they, they will multiply their profit on their casks of grain whisky. |
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