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pillliwinx Single Malt Member


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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject: Peat- help? |
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I love my whisky and want to keep my learning going.
I think I should now move on to the peated whisky's!!
I don't want to sicken myself straight away & therefore want to approach them with in a planned, structured way.
Also, I don't want to waste my cash in buying full bottles of whisky that I will hate.
Can I ask for some advice on what to buy in order so that I can learn the peated whiskies without hating them straight off??
PS.......I have had a bottle of Bruichladdich, The Laddie Ten as and loved it
Thanks
Paul |
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts


Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5749 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Peat- help? |
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| pillliwinx wrote: | I love my whisky and want to keep my learning going.
I think I should now move on to the peated whisky's!!
I don't want to sicken myself straight away & therefore want to approach them with in a planned, structured way.
Also, I don't want to waste my cash in buying full bottles of whisky that I will hate.
Can I ask for some advice on what to buy in order so that I can learn the peated whiskies without hating them straight off??
PS.......I have had a bottle of Bruichladdich, The Laddie Ten as and loved it
Thanks
Paul |
Paul, in my humble opinion, one of the very best peated whiskies is Lagavulin 16. It really is an example of refined peat and smoke. I would highly recommend giving it a try rather than going directly to the peat monsters like Ardbeg 10 or Laphroaig though the Quarter Cask might be to your liking if you get along with Lagavulin. It's nice to start with one of the best drams, Lagavulin, which also would be a great intro to a peaty dram.
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W.C. Fields (1880-1946) |
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bifter Master Of Malts

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Many specialist shops will allow you to sample whiskies before buying. Just today I was buying a bottle as a gift and sampled 3 of the Benromach range - I actually ended up buying the Benromach Peat Smoke! I was on my lunch break but if I'd chatted longer I think I could have blagged some more. If you don't have a friendly merchant locally try the whiskies in your local bar.
As for peated whiskies, some Islay malts (e.g. Ardbeg, Laphroaig) have particularly strong phenolic notes to them, which can impart impressions of iodine, TCP, seaweed or seafood. If you want to start gently and work up perhaps try Highland Park or Springbank, then perhaps Talisker or Oban. The peat notes are less prominent and more reminiscent of wood smoke or ash. Bowmore and Caol Ila are good Islay starters but if you've had the Laddie 10 and liked it you're already there! _________________ "Whisky is liquid sunshine."
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Kray Master Of Malts

Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Posts: 362 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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I would say give Talisker 10 a try, then perhaps Caol ila 12, then Bowmore legend or 12 year old and if you still fancy something peatier then look at Laphroaig 10 and Cask Strength, Lagavulin 16 and Ardbeg 10 or you could jump right in at the deep end and go for one of the big 3 peat monsters Laphroaig, Lagavulin or Ardbeg.
There will be miniatures available of all the bottles i mention if you want to try any first before splashing out on a full size bottle. |
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Alexppp Master Of Malts

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Most peated recommendations have been covered so far. As the guys above said, either try and order miniatures or sample them in a pub or bar - I've seen the Laphroaig 10 in most pubs for example, and would be pretty easy to try before you buy. Talisker can also be found pretty easily in bars and pubs. Both are very strongly flavoured, Laphroaig stronger on the bonfire smoke and medicinal notes, Talisker richer and with a peppery finish. The smoke is sweeter and milder than Laphroaig. I would agree with Quaich that the Lagavulin 16 is the best heavily peated malt, but it's all a matter of individual taste in the end. That too you'd be able to find in bars with a bit of looking around.
For the medium-peated Islay style, Bowmore and Caol Ila are the way to go (Caol Ila would be my preference, but again, it's all a matter of taste). Bifter also mentioned Oban and Highland Park - I'm not a big fan of Oban and the smoke there isn't very powerful, more a background note. Highland Park is normally excellent but there recently has been some variation between batches, with some being a bit weak as far as the peat is concerned. |
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albo Master Of Malts

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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My initial thought on this is if you are a complete peat novice, then starting with the Highland Park 12 is probably the way to go, while it has less proncouned peat than in years gone by, it has some there so by way of introdution its an easy starting point.
The Laga that Quaich mentions is a very classy dram, but for someone who isn't very well versed in the world of peat it may be a first step too far.
The advice on trying something in a bar or getting a minature is actually the best advice I can give you, it will let you try all levels of peat for a fraction of the cost of a bottle.
Try HP12, Talisker 10, Ardbeg 10, Laphroig 10, Laga 16, Caol Ila 12, Bowmore 12, Laphroig QC. You have a massive range to chose from.
If you're a bit of a whisky geek and like to do research, peat levels in whisky are mesured in parts per million (ppm) of phenol, so a quick google on the PPM level in whisky will give you an idea of how peaty it will be.
The Laddie 10 that you have tried is peated to 5ppm (According to 1 site I've just looked up).
The Laga 16 is peated to 40 PPM so quite a jump there.
Talisker 10 peated to 25 PPM.
Just an idea of the range we are talking about.
And at last count Octomore did the most peated whisky at I beleive 130 ppm.
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Soggy Kilt Single Malt Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Kray wrote: | I would say give Talisker 10 a try, then perhaps Caol ila 12, then Bowmore legend or 12 year old and if you still fancy something peatier then look at Laphroaig 10 and Cask Strength, Lagavulin 16 and Ardbeg 10 or you could jump right in at the deep end and go for one of the big 3 peat monsters Laphroaig, Lagavulin or Ardbeg.
There will be miniatures available of all the bottles i mention if you want to try any first before splashing out on a full size bottle. |
Agree with the Bowmore 12 as a nice introduction to peat before getting on the stronger stuff but, tbh I wouldn't worry about structuring your approach too much. The first peaty whisky I tried was a Laphroaig 10, having only tried spey's before hand, and I don't think I will ever forget the moment!
Even my gf who is not a whisky fan prefers the Laphroaig 10 to any of my other whiskies, id just jump right in there!
Enjoy |
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DavidUK Double Malt Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Buy a few miniatures or find a pub which has a good range |
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andyroid20 Double Malt Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| My first heavily peated whisky was the Laphroaig qtr cask and still one of my favourites. I found it hard going initially but a small amount of water helped initially. After a while I preferred it neat but that's my experience ymmv |
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jcarrick Master Of Malts

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My first big peaty whisky was Bowmore 12 year old which was bought for me as a gift. On my first tasting it was a shock to the system, i thought what the hell is this, i didnt realise you could get whisky that tasted like this. By the end of the bottle i was hooked on peated whisky.
The big supermarkets often do very good offers on the likes of Talisker 10, Bowmore Legend, Laphroaig 10 and Laphroaig Quarter Cask and i would recommend any of them to start your peaty whisky journey.
I usually find the best prices for Lagavulin 16 and Ardbeg 10 (2 of my favourites) at The Whisky Exchange and there delivery cost is only £5 which i think is good as i would spend more on petrol driving to a whisky shop and paying for parking. |
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DavidUK Double Malt Member

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| I'd avoid Talisker 10yo as it's an awful tasting whisky. Worse than most cheap blends |
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andyroid20 Double Malt Member

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| DavidUK wrote: | | I'd avoid Talisker 10yo as it's an awful tasting whisky. Worse than most cheap blends |
It's one thing to say it's not to your taste but it is generally regarded as an excellent whisky and certainly much better than a cheap blend |
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Calder Master Of Malts

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| andyroid20 wrote: | | DavidUK wrote: | | I'd avoid Talisker 10yo as it's an awful tasting whisky. Worse than most cheap blends |
It's one thing to say it's not to your taste but it is generally regarded as an excellent whisky and certainly much better than a cheap blend | I would certainly regard the Talisker 10 as excellent. This is the first time i have heard anyone refer to it as awful, i am quite surprised but then i suppose personal tastes can differ considerably. |
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James T Master Of Malts

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| Calder wrote: | | andyroid20 wrote: | | DavidUK wrote: | | I'd avoid Talisker 10yo as it's an awful tasting whisky. Worse than most cheap blends |
It's one thing to say it's not to your taste but it is generally regarded as an excellent whisky and certainly much better than a cheap blend | I would certainly regard the Talisker 10 as excellent. This is the first time i have heard anyone refer to it as awful, i am quite surprised but then i suppose personal tastes can differ considerably. | I would regard the Talisker 10 as excellent, in fact Talisker has an excellent range of whisky IMO. Very surprised to hear it refered to as awful and worse than a cheap blend.
Paul, IMO Talisker 10 is certainly a must try on your whisky journey. I would also say why not jump in at the deep end and go for one of the big peaty whisky producing distilleries offerings such as Laphroaig 10 or Quarter Cask, Ardbeg 10 or Lagavulin 16. |
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