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TheWM Master Of Malts

Joined: 26 Nov 2012 Posts: 2037 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Black dog deluxe (or 12) as I think its known now is pretty good and cheap. I think only available originally for the Indian market. |
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scotchirish Master Of Malts


Joined: 14 Jul 2014 Posts: 270 Location: Roanoke, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| _peke_ wrote: |
I liked Black Grouse....basic entry level blend...little bit of smoke, but cant compare to islay single malts. Worth to try. |
How does the Black Grouse compare to Johnnie Walker Double Black? Liked it well enough. Monkey Shoulder may be my next blend purchase. They only sell the Black Grouse in 1 liter bottles here. That's a lot of whisky if you don't like it. |
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Newkophile Single Malt Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2013 Posts: 22 Location: Boynton Beach, Florida
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| A blended or vatted malt is simply a mix of two or more single malts from different distilleries. Monkey Shoulder, for example, consists of single malts from Balvenie, Glenfiddich and Kininvie. I agree that the SWA's insistence that the term "blended malt" should be used rather than "vatted malt" confuses the issue of what is a blended Scotch, i.e. malt with other grain whiskies, as opposed to a Scotch that is vatted, i.e., consisting of a multitude of single malts. |
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opelfruit Master Of Malts

Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 1900 Location: Trapped inside this octavarium
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed.
Of course 90% of whisky purchases are blends (most likely scotch) and Joe public will obviously not be confused by the introduction of the term "blended" in regards to malts
........In fact, 90% of whisky buyers have no idea what blends, blended malts, age ststments or even scotch actually mean. In fact, moving to "blended" will have entirely the opposite effect and just confuses the hell out of most buyers.
The people who understand the difference also understood the difference when it was "vatted", so the change is completely pointless and another case of the SWA sticking it's oar in.
........One for another time  _________________ "Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whisky is barely enough." |
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sorren Master Of Malts


Joined: 11 Jan 2010 Posts: 2329 Location: uk
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I am sure they will come up with something else to confuse the hell out of us... |
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opelfruit Master Of Malts

Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 1900 Location: Trapped inside this octavarium
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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They could ban "additives" (read e150a).
That'll confuse the hell out of Joe Public......
....nah, that be bad for whisky sales, which is what the SWA really cares about. Cash baby. _________________ "Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whisky is barely enough." |
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sorren Master Of Malts


Joined: 11 Jan 2010 Posts: 2329 Location: uk
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| But it is a great idea... Maybe just ban it from single malts .. |
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scotchirish Master Of Malts


Joined: 14 Jul 2014 Posts: 270 Location: Roanoke, Virginia
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Well . . . my first dram of 'Monkey Shoulder' . . . BLEND (says so on their bottle, must be so, or they wouldn't say so . . and must not be ashamed of it). In fact, I'm not ashamed to be drinking it . . . very drinkable indeed. Kind of a darker, richer, sweeter version of Old Pulteney 10 to me; but then, what do I know?
I know I like it. Glad it was talked about. Could see myself buying this occasionally.
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_peke_ Single Malt Member


Joined: 08 Apr 2015 Posts: 36 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| scotchirish wrote: | | _peke_ wrote: |
I liked Black Grouse....basic entry level blend...little bit of smoke, but cant compare to islay single malts. Worth to try. |
How does the Black Grouse compare to Johnnie Walker Double Black? Liked it well enough. Monkey Shoulder may be my next blend purchase. They only sell the Black Grouse in 1 liter bottles here. That's a lot of whisky if you don't like it. |
Never tasted Double Black...it is maybe my next purchase. |
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_peke_ Single Malt Member


Joined: 08 Apr 2015 Posts: 36 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| Newkophile wrote: | | A blended or vatted malt is simply a mix of two or more single malts from different distilleries. Monkey Shoulder, for example, consists of single malts from Balvenie, Glenfiddich and Kininvie. I agree that the SWA's insistence that the term "blended malt" should be used rather than "vatted malt" confuses the issue of what is a blended Scotch, i.e. malt with other grain whiskies, as opposed to a Scotch that is vatted, i.e., consisting of a multitude of single malts. |
Thank you for clarifying these terms  |
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ralfy legend Master Of Malts

Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Posts: 969 Location: Fife
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| Recently I tested my pal with a blind test , he' single malt drinker only not very experienced but I tested with two blends to see if he liked and he did they was jw black 12 and chivaz regal 12, I enjoyed also but it got me thinking about trying more blends so question is lad how does the JB rare compare to the jw and regal ???? |
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ralfy legend Master Of Malts

Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Posts: 969 Location: Fife
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Recently I tested my pal with a blind test , he' single malt drinker only not very experienced but I tested with two blends to see if he liked and he did they was jw black 12 and chivaz regal 12, I enjoyed also but it got me thinking about trying more blends so question is lads how does the JB rare compare to the jw and regal ???? |
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Whisky Dog Master Of Malts

Joined: 09 Apr 2014 Posts: 717
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| I would rate jw black and chivas 12 above JB |
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TheWM Master Of Malts

Joined: 26 Nov 2012 Posts: 2037 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Agreed. I'd put the CR12 in the same bracket as the JB rare, maybe just slightly ahead. JW Red would be in a lower bracket than those two, but JW Black way ahead. |
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marler13 Member

Joined: 06 Nov 2015 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:41 pm Post subject: Cheap |
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| Does anyone have a link or can provide me with a price list of the best cheaper whiskeys? |
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