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Quaich1
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 Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:36 pm Post subject: Jim Murray’s Whisky Bible Award winners 2022 |
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I received my copy today and thought it would be of general interest to hear of some of the winners.
World Whisky of the Year-George T Stagg (bourbon)
Scotch Whisky of the Year-G&M Glen Grant 1948
Scotch Blend of the Year-Ballantines Finest
Irish Whiskey of the Year-Ash Tree 30 Year Old
Canadian Whisky of the Year-Canadian Club Chronicles Aged 43
Japanese Whisky of the Year-The Kurayoshi 18 Pure Malt
Single Malt of the Year, multiple casks-Glen Grant 18 Years
Scotch Grain of the Year-Whisky-Fassle Invergordon 44 Year Old
Scotch Vatted Malt of the Year-Chapter 7 Williamson 9 Year Old
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Bookie
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| No surprise that it is a American bourbon, he does seem to have a taste for it, pleased to hear it was published this year i did wonder if we would see a 2022 edition. |
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Scotchnthings
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Doesnt he take money to "review" your whisky? |
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McKay
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Scotchnthings wrote: | | Doesnt he take money to "review" your whisky? |
Not that i am aware of.
Most, if not all whisky award/competitions take money for each whisky entered and then usually award the whisky a gold, silver or bronze medal. Jim reviews and rates each whisky with a score out of 100 and then picks his favourite from each category. He makes money from the books he sells not for rating the whiskies as far as i am aware. |
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Hugo
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont agree with all his ratings/review but that is indiviidual personal taste for you but i am pleased the book continues after the crazy allegations a while back. I do wonder how how comprehensively new releases are covered as i thought some big whisky companies had cut his supply of review whisky off. |
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lincoln imp
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| McKay wrote: | | Scotchnthings wrote: | | Doesnt he take money to "review" your whisky? |
Not that i am aware of.
Most, if not all whisky award/competitions take money for each whisky entered and then usually award the whisky a gold, silver or bronze medal. Jim reviews and rates each whisky with a score out of 100 and then picks his favourite from each category. He makes money from the books he sells not for rating the whiskies as far as i am aware. |
Very respectfully I am pretty sure that Scotchnthings might be correct. I read an article that laid bare what he does for money and he is not paid to give a high mark but he is invited to review a distilleries offerings and visit said premises, an appearance fee if you like.The more you pay the better the score, allegedly of course?
Now I do not know if this is actually correct, or false but in the last few years sales have gone down of the book and if you think about it, if he is not paid for trying all the new whiskies, it would not be very lucrative for him?
Also there could be a few other people in the industry that have an axe to grind so where the truth actually lies is difficult to pinpoint.
There is no way on this earth that Ballantine's Finest is the best blend out there at the moment, I know rating whisky is subjective but I regularly drink and buy blends, just purchased an older 30 year, but I can say that their basic offering is not a good one.
Murray is a marmite character, he definitely was one of the first to put whisky on the map and he has done a lot to give exposure of whisky to the masses but you have to temper that with some of the scores he gives.
I stopped buying his book in 2008 because he scored the then Ardbeg 10 97 points (utter bollocks) and the Linlithgow 1973 OB with something like 73 points saying it was a tired cask, the score and the comments in my view were so far off the mark it was laughable that Linlithgow is a lovely whisky, make no mistake. Saying Ardbeg 10 was a 97 pointer was an affront to anyone who knew anything about whisky, it was not even close. I know because I drank a bottle IN 2008.
Perhaps when the book first came out a higher proportion of reviews and scores were closer to the mark, but as the years have gone on the scoring has baffled a few people so to speak.
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Whisky Chaser
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:09 am Post subject: |
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I wouldnt equate free samples and all expenses paid trips to distilleries as buying a good review, how else could anyone afford to review so many whiskies if they were not free. i dont agree with many of his reviews but overall i have found the Whisky Bible a good guide to what is worth trying.
Cheers Quaich1, i just ordered a copy of the 2022 Whisky Bible |
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davidbe
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Ron Burgundy-style reviews aside, it'd be more interesting if the ranking of whiskies was put aside in favour of something more constructive.
At present the ranking of booze (or anything, for that matter) seems to serve no purpose other than propel which brands will receive increased demand and higher hammer prices on the secondary.
Are we all enjoying our bottles of Northern Harvest Rye? Are we f.. |
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unblended
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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i think hes like marmite you either love or hate
i dont like marmite  |
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lincoln imp
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Whisky Chaser wrote: | I wouldnt equate free samples and all expenses paid trips to distilleries as buying a good review, how else could anyone afford to review so many whiskies if they were not free. i dont agree with many of his reviews but overall i have found the Whisky Bible a good guide to what is worth trying.
Cheers Quaich1, i just ordered a copy of the 2022 Whisky Bible |
Maybe I should have explained it better, the article I read said he gets paid by the distillery to review their whisky and the more he was paid the implication was the better he scored them?
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unblended
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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i see he did an article in the daily mail today
i tried to download it but it didnt work out |
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Grant M
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unblended
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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yes thanks very much
i must say i tried ballantines finest if thats the best blended scottish whisky i am not impressed  |
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davidbe
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| It's almost as if taste is subjective.. |
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unblended
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:16 am Post subject: |
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as you say taste is subjective i agree
but if you going say something is the best get it right its not even close
its slightly above average i wouldnt go out of my way for it
but would be happy to drink it if offered to me
only my thoughts |
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