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Scotchnthings
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:07 pm    Post subject: Whisky expensive in the UK? Reply with quote

Can someone explain why Scotch Whisky is more expensive in the UK then in Europe, the US and even countries like Japan? Some of which even get an extra 5cl in the bottle for a cheaper price? It just feels odd, that even with import/export costs + import tariffs and all that, you can still buy an Ardbeg 10 for less money on the other side of the world?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our tax is higher than other parts of the world.

"Tax on Scotch in the UK currently stands at 70%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. But it doesn't have to be this way."

https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/insights/uk-excise-duty/
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The taxes are also high here in Western Canada. Not sure what you are paying, but I haven't found Ardbeg 10 for less than about $110 CAN - roughly €75 or £65. I've seen the Uigeadail for less than that in Seattle. (Uigeadail is over $165 here).
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canuck 01 wrote:
...I haven't found Ardbeg 10 for less than about $110 CAN - roughly €75 or £65.


Good example - Ardbeg 10 currently at £37 in supermarkets in Scotland.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to remember a Canadian friend telling me that imported whisky has quite a high import duty placed on it by the liquor control boards in an attempt to protect the canadian whiskey trade.
When I went to visit he was super grateful for the gift of a balvenie. I thought he was a bit over the top until he took me to the LCBO shop.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimny14 wrote:
I seem to remember a Canadian friend telling me that imported whisky has quite a high import duty placed on it by the liquor control boards in an attempt to protect the canadian whiskey trade.
When I went to visit he was super grateful for the gift of a balvenie. I thought he was a bit over the top until he took me to the LCBO shop.



It is certainly bad in Canada. There would be an import tax, an excise tax and most likely other taxes I'm not aware of before the bottle gets on the shelf. Then the consumer pays an additional 10% Provincial sales tax and 5% goods and services tax above the advertised price. - my Ardbeg example includes the final 15% - so the advertised price is just under $100. Rather depressingly expensive. And when we travel out of country, we can't bring back more than 1.14 litres of liqour without paying additional duties/taxes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

webdunk wrote:
Our tax is higher than other parts of the world.

"Tax on Scotch in the UK currently stands at 70%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. But it doesn't have to be this way."

https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/insights/uk-excise-duty/



mmh thanks for that, interesting read, It does seem a bit silly all of it, no wonder Scotland wants to leave the UK Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

webdunk wrote:
Our tax is higher than other parts of the world.

"Tax on Scotch in the UK currently stands at 70%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. But it doesn't have to be this way."

https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/insights/uk-excise-duty/



mmh thanks for that, interesting read, It does seem a bit silly all of it, no wonder Scotland wants to leave the UK Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotchnthings wrote:
webdunk wrote:
Our tax is higher than other parts of the world.

"Tax on Scotch in the UK currently stands at 70%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. But it doesn't have to be this way."

https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/insights/uk-excise-duty/



mmh thanks for that, interesting read, It does seem a bit silly all of it, no wonder Scotland wants to leave the UK Laughing


That would be a real test for NIicola Sturgeon if Scotland did gain independence, would they reduced the tax on Scotch, if she did I bet it would be minimal, only time will tell?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotchnthings wrote:
webdunk wrote:
Our tax is higher than other parts of the world.

"Tax on Scotch in the UK currently stands at 70%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. But it doesn't have to be this way."

https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/insights/uk-excise-duty/



mmh thanks for that, interesting read, It does seem a bit silly all of it, no wonder Scotland wants to leave the UK Laughing


Er, no. The SNP, who make up less than half of voters, want to leave the UK.
Sorry, couldn't help it.😁😁
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Bobby wrote:
Scotchnthings wrote:
webdunk wrote:
Our tax is higher than other parts of the world.

"Tax on Scotch in the UK currently stands at 70%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. But it doesn't have to be this way."

https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/insights/uk-excise-duty/



mmh thanks for that, interesting read, It does seem a bit silly all of it, no wonder Scotland wants to leave the UK Laughing


Er, no. The SNP, who make up less than half of voters, want to leave the UK.
Sorry, couldn't help it.😁😁



Are you Scottish or English? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Bobby wrote:
Scotchnthings wrote:
webdunk wrote:
Our tax is higher than other parts of the world.

"Tax on Scotch in the UK currently stands at 70%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. But it doesn't have to be this way."

https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/insights/uk-excise-duty/



mmh thanks for that, interesting read, It does seem a bit silly all of it, no wonder Scotland wants to leave the UK Laughing


Er, no. The SNP, who make up less than half of voters, want to leave the UK.
Sorry, couldn't help it.😁😁


Jeez, it was obviously meant as a joke. Can we get back to discussing whisky now?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Canada want to defend their spirits industry the best thing they could do is make better whisky themselves.

Scotland wouldn't cut tax, more likely to push it up given the SNP promoted minimum pricing.

As for UK spend in Scotland
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scottish-independence-exactly-how-much-money-does-scotland-contribute-to-england-and-what-is-the-barnett-formula-3233129
{the headline should read "contribute to the UK"]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google showed me this after I read this post. US state taxes for spirits, not sure on federal government taxes.

https://vinepair.com/booze-news/excise-taxes-liquor-every-state/?amp
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:00 am    Post subject: Best Single Malt Whiskies for under £100 Reply with quote

Hi All

I am looking for advice on the best single malt whisky for under £100 for a gift? Most of my dabbling has been with double malt / blended whiskies.

Looking for some recommendations.

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