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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:12 pm    Post subject: Jura Rum Cask edition Reply with quote

Has anyone tried this yet?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a look at it, I may give it a go if I heard if it was any good as the Jura Winter Edition which came in a 1 litre bottle was pretty good especially when found on offer.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:
I had a look at it, I may give it a go if I heard if it was any good as the Jura Winter Edition which came in a 1 litre bottle was pretty good especially when found on offer.


Yep, currently enjoying the winter Edition too.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:56 am    Post subject: First impressions Reply with quote

I'm new as a whiskey drinker, I've reached That Age.
Things I've learnt in the last 2 years:
1) I don't like TCP.
2) Amazing flavour changes can be induced with ice, water, soda, other mixers.
3) First taste from a newly opened bottle won't be conclusive. If you don't like it, come back in a week.
4) Decanters are effective - maybe some alcohol evaporates? Maybe some water does too, but flavours change in a few days.
5) Spey whiskies are generally too light for me but ironically Cardhu Gold is currently my favourite!


To the Jura Rum edition
Day1: First pour - colour of a best bitter, usually a good sign IMHO. Smells of tropical fruits and a good burst of alcohol. Sipped neat. Sweet. Strong rum, no TCP. 5pm was too early to get on it.
Second pour - 8pm - very similar.
8:15, ice added, flavours mostly lost apart from the rum and the alcohol and then a long finish of tropical fruit. The packaging suggests guava, never had such an exotic fruit so don't know. No evidence of coconut as suggested on the box. That rum though, sweet dark rum, but is it slightly overpowering perhaps?

It's not like any of the other Juras I've tasted...
Origin: loved, sweet and malty, can't find it now.
10yr old : initially hated due to TCP, improved over a month, quite liked as it finished.
Journey: Slightly disappointing, but drank it anyway.

Concluding thoughts - this is suggested as a "mixer Scotch" and maybe that will be tonight's test. They also suggest it's a summer drink and maybe as a cocktail base or mixed with ginger ale it would work, however I'm tempted to stash this and wait for December as it makes me want Christmas pudding.
1litre bottle for the rum cask edition - why?
£40 Tesco.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Millsey, on your point on speysides being light, try glenfiddich project xx and try saying the same, nice drop with lots going on , the cardhu is light and your enjoying that so as you got slightly up the ladder there’s a few speys to be tried and enjoyed
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ralfy legend wrote:
Millsey, on your point on speysides being light, try glenfiddich project xx and try saying the same, nice drop with lots going on , the cardhu is light and your enjoying that so as you got slightly up the ladder there’s a few speys to be tried and enjoyed


Thank you sir... I'm learning every day!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: First impressions Reply with quote

millsey101 wrote:
4) Decanters are effective - maybe some alcohol evaporates?
Probably more like a psychological effect, whiskey decanters are only "effective" in the sense of having a small decanter, say 350ml that you pour your whisky into once you've drank half the bottle, because what you want to do with whisky is prevent oxidation in the bottle by limiting the air gap. Typical size for whisky decanters are 700ml and greater and when you get above 700ml if anything decanters are having a negative effect.


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5) Spey whiskies are generally too light for me but ironically Cardhu Gold is currently my favourite!
To add to Ralfy's suggestion Balvenie 14 Caribbean cask is another good example of a speysider with a strong flavour profile.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: First impressions Reply with quote

BigShing wrote:
millsey101 wrote:
4) Decanters are effective - maybe some alcohol evaporates?
Probably more like a psychological effect, whiskey decanters are only "effective" in the sense of having a small decanter, say 350ml that you pour your whisky into once you've drank half the bottle, because what you want to do with whisky is prevent oxidation in the bottle by limiting the air gap. Typical size for whisky decanters are 700ml and greater and when you get above 700ml if anything decanters are having a negative effect.


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5) Spey whiskies are generally too light for me but ironically Cardhu Gold is currently my favourite!
To add to Ralfy's suggestion Balvenie 14 Caribbean cask is another good example of a speysider with a strong flavour profile.


Yeah, I never decant more than I'm likely to drink over the next 2-3 days, I'm sure it helps to soften down the harsher drinks... works for wine anyway! As for Balvenie, yes, I've had their Double Wood and enjoyed that.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First 5 cl of the balvenie 14 I really wasn’t sure but hell yes it’s a fine dram.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: First impressions Reply with quote

millsey101 wrote:
Yeah, I never decant more than I'm likely to drink over the next 2-3 days, I'm sure it helps to soften down the harsher drinks... works for wine anyway! As for Balvenie, yes, I've had their Double Wood and enjoyed that.
Yeah it works for wine and that's the problem, people think "oh decanting is good for wine so it must be good for whisky" and it isn't, primarily because you decant them differently. The alcohol traps the flavour and if you let a whisky oxidise in the bottle then its ABV drops and it loses the flavour over time. As you're drinking it fast from the decanter you're not suffering from this effect, you're basically just getting the benefit of pouring yourself a dram from a new bottle and then letting the whisky evaporate for a bit in the glass until the bite isn't affecting your taste. This is basically how wine is decanted, you pour a bottle into the decanter and let it sit for a short while so the oxidation can soften the tannins and whatnot, but you drink it up, you don't store it permanently in that decanter for weeks on end because the same thing that happens to whiskey is gonna happen to the wine.

Are you using aspecialist whiskey glass to drink from? IE: A Copita or Glencairn? These glasses will do the job of letting the alcohol evaporate without the need for you to use a decanter, I mean you can continue to use the decanter by all means, but I guess you're limited in scope in that regard as you can only decant one bottle at a time. You can just let the process happen in the glass for every other bottle you open.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:36 am    Post subject: Thanks BigShing Reply with quote

Lots of useful info there, and I did a taste test of some whiskey that had been in the decanter for up to a month against the contents of the stoppered bottle and you're absolutely right - the flavour was significantly reduced so I won't do that again except for short-term sessions!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject: Jura Rum with Ginger ale - it's a no from me Reply with quote

I taste-tested the Jura Rum with ginger yesterday evening, a chum popped over to help me and we actually were both disappointed with the result... if you like GA then fine but we didn't get a lot of whiskey flavours coming through and we tested it very thoroughly with several different quantities and with/without ice. Jura 10 with GA is a different story however, I guess the peat/smoke really works with the ginger. So we're back to Rum Cask being a "sipper" and I still reckon it's better for Christmas than for summer.
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