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Quaich1 Master Of Malts
Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5747 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:07 pm Post subject: What to do with a single malt that just doesn't do it! |
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I wanted to mention something that relates to doing some experimentation with malts that are not particularly fascinating or that actually appear somewhat mediocre. This happened to me with a bottle of Mortlach Rare Old. I've been a fan of Mortlach aged statements for a long while. I've been impressed with Mortlach 18, 25 and 26 year expressions and have actually written my reviews for these whiskies for William's featured Whisky News Section from here in Canada in the past. So I had the dilemma with the Rare Old. Had about 4 or 5 drams out of my bottle over a month or more and nothing improved and my best guess was that fireworks were not going to spontaneously occur with this one. So I decided to turn such a malt into a vatted malt. I ended up with the following recipe or marriage that I came up with: 60% proportion of Mortlach Rare Old 43.4% abv., 20% proportion of Glenfiddich 15 Distillery Ed., 51%abv; 15% proportion Glenlivet Cipher 48% abv. and 5% proportion of Bowmore Devil's Casks 10 year small batch 56.9% abv. I let it be and when I decided to nose and taste it I found a rather intriguing and quite complex and I dare say most enjoyable vatted malt. Never discard a bottle of single malt but try to decipher what's wrong with it. In this case, The Rare Old is neither rare nor old and by marrying it with more substantial and tastier malts, it morphed into something special. Your thoughts?
Cheers,
Murray _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
W.C. Fields (1880-1946) |
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MattS Master Of Malts
Joined: 23 Apr 2018 Posts: 529
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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I can only say that I think you did the right thing and as you're happy with the result, that's success. |
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Jorvus Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2020 Posts: 14 Location: Thurso
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I often think of doing this with the malts that have been exiled for crimes against my palette! My problem is most of these are lower quality malts with very few redeeming features.
For instance, I recently received a NAS Auchentoshen as a gift that tastes as if I have personally insulted the distillers and they wanted vengeance. I don't see a way back for this
malt and would be reticent to add anything of a higher quality to it for fear of it being wasted on a lost cause.
Outside of these thoughtful gifts I do sometimes think of adding a little Ardbeg or Caol Ila to my usual Glencadam 10 just to see what wonders might occur. |
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MaltArfa Single Malt Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2020 Posts: 26 Location: West Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Jorvus wrote: | I often think of doing this with the malts that have been exiled for crimes against my palette! My problem is most of these are lower quality malts with very few redeeming features.
For instance, I recently received a NAS Auchentoshen as a gift that tastes as if I have personally insulted the distillers and they wanted vengeance. I don't see a way back for this
malt and would be reticent to add anything of a higher quality to it for fear of it being wasted on a lost cause.
Outside of these thoughtful gifts I do sometimes think of adding a little Ardbeg or Caol Ila to my usual Glencadam 10 just to see what wonders might occur. |
In your Auchentoshen situation my recommendation is to add a spot of inexpensive peaty malt such as Laphroaig 10. It can turn something sharp, young and unremarkable into something much more drinkable. You can end up with your own take on Johnnie Walker. |
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Jorvus Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2020 Posts: 14 Location: Thurso
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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MaltArfa wrote: | Jorvus wrote: | I often think of doing this with the malts that have been exiled for crimes against my palette! My problem is most of these are lower quality malts with very few redeeming features.
For instance, I recently received a NAS Auchentoshen as a gift that tastes as if I have personally insulted the distillers and they wanted vengeance. I don't see a way back for this
malt and would be reticent to add anything of a higher quality to it for fear of it being wasted on a lost cause.
Outside of these thoughtful gifts I do sometimes think of adding a little Ardbeg or Caol Ila to my usual Glencadam 10 just to see what wonders might occur. |
In your Auchentoshen situation my recommendation is to add a spot of inexpensive peaty malt such as Laphroaig 10. It can turn something sharp, young and unremarkable into something much more drinkable. You can end up with your own take on Johnnie Walker. |
Will definitely give this a go. I think I even have some Laphroig hiding away somewhere. Thanks for the tip. |
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Paulm Single Malt Member
Joined: 17 Oct 2018 Posts: 74
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same dilemma as the OP.
A grateful client gave me a bottle of ‘Darkness’ ALLT-A-BHAINE 23 year old. At over £100 for a 50cl bottle I was expecting to love it. I knew I wouldn’t on the nose. It smells like port and has a liqueur kind of consistency. Added water and also thought some time and air in the bottle would improve it but alas it hasn’t. I really could do with some thought of what I should add to it. I have a reasonable collection so any suggestions appreciated. |
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Albie Master Of Malts
Joined: 31 Oct 2019 Posts: 326
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Have you any single grain whisky to hand, try a test sample adding a drop of grain whisky at a time. |
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Paulm Single Malt Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Albie wrote: | Have you any single grain whisky to hand, try a test sample adding a drop of grain whisky at a time. |
Despite my reasonable collection I don’t seem to have a single grain option. |
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pilch69 Single Malt Member
Joined: 25 Jun 2020 Posts: 23
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: What to do with a single malt that just doesn't do it! |
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Quaich1 wrote: | I wanted to mention something that relates to doing some experimentation with malts that are not particularly fascinating or that actually appear somewhat mediocre. This happened to me with a bottle of Mortlach Rare Old. I've been a fan of Mortlach aged statements for a long while. I've been impressed with Mortlach 18, 25 and 26 year expressions and have actually written my reviews for these whiskies for William's featured Whisky News Section from here in Canada in the past. So I had the dilemma with the Rare Old. Had about 4 or 5 drams out of my bottle over a month or more and nothing improved and my best guess was that fireworks were not going to spontaneously occur with this one. So I decided to turn such a malt into a vatted malt. I ended up with the following recipe or marriage that I came up with: 60% proportion of Mortlach Rare Old 43.4% abv., 20% proportion of Glenfiddich 15 Distillery Ed., 51%abv; 15% proportion Glenlivet Cipher 48% abv. and 5% proportion of Bowmore Devil's Casks 10 year small batch 56.9% abv. I let it be and when I decided to nose and taste it I found a rather intriguing and quite complex and I dare say most enjoyable vatted malt. Never discard a bottle of single malt but try to decipher what's wrong with it. In this case, The Rare Old is neither rare nor old and by marrying it with more substantial and tastier malts, it morphed into something special. Your thoughts?
Cheers,
Murray |
if I open a whisky I'm struggling with I usually get the taste for Irish coffee and a double whisky slips into it |
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blackcipher Double Malt Member
Joined: 27 Oct 2016 Posts: 103 Location: Elgin
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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I get a tall glass with a heap of ice and fill with coke and said unenjoyable whisky. Got.one I'm working through at the moment. |
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Peloquin Single Malt Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2018 Posts: 50 Location: Stoke on Trent
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Start an infinity bottle or 2 with it or share it out among your mates. |
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lincoln imp Master Of Malts
Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 751 Location: Lincolnshire England
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I have just given my wife a bottle of the latest Deanston 12 as it is not to my liking, otherwise I have a live blended malt bottle, sometimes the mix works, sometimes not. _________________ Pour me a glass please. |
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Jimny14 Single Malt Member
Joined: 11 Oct 2020 Posts: 37 Location: North lancashire
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I like having a bottle of something like that for hot toddies when I'm not feeling great. If I'm drinking a toddy I am unlikely to be able to taste much anyway. |
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