Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:16 pm Post subject: Karuizawa Shibari
I have received word that my ballot application to buy the extremely limited 35 year old Karuizawa Shibari has been successful. There are four bottles in the collection and only 45 sets. I’ve been given the option to buy all four, any combination of two or three from those four or just the one bottle of my choice. There is a very small window during which the purchase can be made and that closes for me at 7.12pm tomorrow evening (Saturday 9 March 2019). See details from the email I received from Dekanta below...
“Greetings & Congratulations,
We're excited to let you know that you've been selected as one of the winners of our Karuizawa Shibari 35 Year Old ballot. With over 4,000 entries, and just 45 sets available, you are one of the lucky few who has the opportunity to own this historic release. We're quite sure you will love it!
As one of the first ballot selections, we have set aside one of each of the four bottles for you. You can choose to purchase one, all four or any other combination of the Shibari Collection that you'd like.
* You have 24 hours to complete your order using the ballot code above. If you do not complete, we will give your ballot
to the next person on the list.
* This is a pre-order, bottles are expected to deliver in late April.
* Payment by bank wire transfer is required within 3 days of placing your order.
* Due to the limited nature, no refunds or exchanges will be offered.
Unfortunately the $14,500 price tag for Each bottle is just a bit beyond my budget.
If I had the money I would certainly buy what I could of these in a heartbeat.
If anyone has from between that amount for one bottle and $58k for the full
set and would like to grab a piece of Japanese whisky history which due to the feverish demand for rare expresions like this, will undoubtedly soar in price, please contact me ASAP to discuss with a view to offering you the code.
On the contrary. When I applied for the ballot, I did so with the hope that I’d be able to buy a bottle if got the opportunity. Changed circumstances now prevent me from being able to do so. I have a substantial collection including recent releases of Royal Lochnagar HRH 30yo, Macallan Genesis and Macallan Easter Elchies Black 2018. My collection is more important to me than any profit to be made and I have never ‘flipped’ a bottle, nor do I ever intend to do so. You presume much when you say that my aim is to sell this code and that I deliberately entered the ballot to sell the right to buy if I was successful. The only bottle I’ve ever tried to exchange or sell was the HP Hillhead - which I had spare - to get the Hobbister which was missing from the set. The reason I offer this code here is so that a genuine collector could use it, rather than have somebody buy it who is solely in it to make a killing at auction.
I suppose I really should have expected this sort of response from those ignoramuses who, rather than consider what was a once in a lifetime opportunity, chose to post scurrilous and totally unfounded remarks about me.
If this is a measure of the cameraderie on this forum, then it’s a very sad reflection of the calibre of the membership.
it is a good forum with as far as i iam concerned as well as very good members we just dont agree with you
that is what a forum is about discussion you might not like it thats your choice
i agree with the majority of whats been said maybe could have been said better
with everything thats is going on in the whisky world the real collectors who ever they are are entitled to say what they think the same as you
even if we dont agree with you
Obviously I haven’t made myself clear. The code was NOT for sale. The intention was to try to establish whether that person who might have made use of it was a genuine collector it not. Having been given the code, of course he/she could have bought the whisky and then flipped it with none of us any the wiser. I’m not so short of cash, nor am I so mercenary as all of those who have responded here clearly think. I can assure you that I do not apply for ballots and then try to sell the right to buy, l’ve much better things to do with my time. When I got this opportunity and wasn’t able to take it up, I imagined that the chances were it would go to a so called ‘flipper’ so I thought I would offer it up here. What I didn’t anticipate however, was the accusation(s) that followed. The chance has gone anyway and no doubt someone somewhere will make plenty out of it, and good luck to them. What’s as disappointing as anything is that despite my explanation about my motives, the previous two posters just ignored what I’ve said and have judged and condemned me out of hand.
Anyway folks, I’ll certainly know where not to come to if a similar opportunity arises again.
If nothing else, this episode has allowed me the chance to interact with and get to know some of my new whisky forum ‘buddies’ 🤣)
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:00 pm Post subject:
And all this drama, but you set the tone with your reply to me totally unfounded, yet get sensitive when folks post words.. I've seen this ballot code offered several times online, hence my reaction.... here we go
You judged first 😋
You seem to be doing ok with your ballots though, better than I have recently. Next time you win a ballot and look to share, suggest stating your free generous offering. Yet I'm not sure how your email and code can then be passed to me, to ensure it is posted to me and I get email updates on shipping etc what's stopping you contacting them after my purchase to edit shipping address? Just a thought 👍
There was no drama until you responded in the way you did. I was making a genuine attempt to give someone here the chance that I wasn’t able to take up. I’m not in the least bit sensitive but I absolutely at all times reserve the right to defend myself against unwarranted accusations of impropriety which call into question my integrity.
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