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chrisg
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:38 pm    Post subject: List of Whisky with added E150 colouring Reply with quote

Hi all

I have been hovering about the forum for probably over a year now since i discovered my taste for Scotch malt whisky and your posts have directed me to some brilliant whiskies Very Happy I have searched this forum and on google but cant seem to find a list of whisky which have added E150 colouring, does such a list exist.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to ask a similar question after William said that the Glengoyne range is all natural colour. It would seem to me that it would be easier to compile a list of natural colour whiskies as most of them do include colouring I think... The ones I know to be natural for sure are the Macallan, Highland Park and Glengoyne ranges, along with various individual bottlings from other distilleries. I'm sure someone with more experience can add to this list.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chris and good to have you here

I dont think such a list exists but it would be good if it did. Today the whisky producers know that the informed whisky drinker wants natural coloured whisky so i reckon if it doesnt state on the bottle or packaging that it has no added colouring then i assume that colouring has been added. Unfortunately i do think the majority of whisky still contains E150a colouring.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the whisky producers will always continue to use the E150a caramel colouring unless they are discouraged to do so from preasure from whisky drinkers. A list of who doesnt add colouring that is distributed amongst the whisky drinking community could be a good thing as it could help discourage some producers from adding colouring in the future.

Chris a good place to look for natural coloured whisky is the bottlings from independent bottlers such as Douglas Laing who offer whisky from most distilleries past and present.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't personally thing its a bad thing ie has a massive effect on the whisky it's just a shame producers do it to keep 'consistency' - it wouldn't bother me if you looked at a shelf of bottles all different shades.

natural colour has a good feel factor about it which independent bottlers play on!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do think the caramel has an effect on the whisky and i think some producers add way more than others. I have been at tastings where they having demonstrated the effect of E150a caramel colouring by adding a drop of E150a to water, although i didnt take a taste of it i could definitely detect distinct carmel/toffee notes on the nose.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes you can get natural caramelization of the whisky. something to do with size of cask I believe
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can perhaps understand the addition of caramel colouring to standardise the look of blends but there really is no need with malts and i would sit in the camp that believes that not only does it alter the appearance but also the taste of the whisky. Although i think perhaps chill-filtration can have a big effect on the final flavour of whisky.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Tom, i dont think it has a massive effect on the whisky in most cases, but i do think it does have an effect. We are now in a new era of whisky. Never has single malts be so popular as they have in the last 15 years. The producers need to respond to their consumers and give them what they want.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E150a is fine for the cheaper blends but single malt whisky is about taste and i do believe they alter the nose and taste by adding caramel colouring and there is no need. Also there is no need for to chill-filter any whisky which is bottled at 46% or more.

Many producers are already listening to the whisky drinkers for instance Bunnahabhain now bottle there whisky at 46.3% non chill-filtered with no added colouring and it has made a huge improvement to there whisky.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fergie wrote:
i reckon if it doesnt state on the bottle or packaging that it has no added colouring then i assume that colouring has been added. Unfortunately i do think the majority of whisky still contains E150a colouring.

I agree, but i think there are some who do not highlight that their whisky is natural colour. A list would be good, i am surprised there isnt one already for both natural coloured and non chill-filtered whiskies.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theyll all go without the E's and go non chill filtered if thats what the market wants.

The first in will reap the benefits as their brand will be highlighted as the best "real" single.

They will advertise that they are "clean" in much the same way the organic producers lord it now.

To be honest Im in the camp that wants my whisky to be clean and fresh....anything from the cask etc is fine its natural. But I dont want anything adding to my whisky bar a tad water........or if im feeling a little ostentatious....AN ICE CUBE! Very Happy



Seems its a case of I dont mind it.....or I dont need it. Which camp do you choose?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do think there are some that are more heavy handed than others with the caramel colouring.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creed wrote:
I do think there are some that are more heavy handed than others with the caramel colouring.


For example?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexppp wrote:
Creed wrote:
I do think there are some that are more heavy handed than others with the caramel colouring.


For example?
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