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Quaich1 Master Of Malts
Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5740 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: Japanese Whisky - The Next Big Thing |
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"Soaring demand for whiskies made in a country long associated with sake has catapulted Japan into the ranks of the world's whisky heavyweights - Scotland, Ireland, the United States and Canada - despite having fewer than 10 distilleries, about a tenth of the number in Scotland. Commercial production has been around in Japan since the 1920's after a student who learned the art of whisky making in Scotland helped start the Yamazaki distillery near Kyoto".
http://cooks.ndtv.com/article/show/japanese-whisky-the-next-big-thing-592123 _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
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opelfruit Master Of Malts
Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 1900 Location: Trapped inside this octavarium
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Funny that people who have not heard of Japanese whisky think it's the next big thing. It ain't up and coming, it's up and come. I've been drinking the stuff for a few years and it's been getting good press for quite some time. Prices are soaring because of demand, I nearly had a heart attack today when thinking about getting a new bottle of Hakushu 18 and it's about £150! Didn't get one.
For me the next big thing is "Asian" whisky - stuff from India and places like Taiwan (Kavalan anyone?) are really showing what can be done with good spirit, good wood management and careful vatting. Amrut has been constantly blowing me away this year. _________________ "Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whisky is barely enough." |
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts
Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5740 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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opelfruit wrote: | Funny that people who have not heard of Japanese whisky think it's the next big thing. It ain't up and coming, it's up and come. I've been drinking the stuff for a few years and it's been getting good press for quite some time. Prices are soaring because of demand, I nearly had a heart attack today when thinking about getting a new bottle of Hakushu 18 and it's about £150! Didn't get one.
For me the next big thing is "Asian" whisky - stuff from India and places like Taiwan (Kavalan anyone?) are really showing what can be done with good spirit, good wood management and careful vatting. Amrut has been constantly blowing me away this year. |
I agree. I first encountered Japanese whisky during some extensive travelling in Japan in 1981. I remember being at a Suntory bar at a highrise rooftop enjoying yakatori chicken and whisky-those were the days.... _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
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opelfruit Master Of Malts
Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 1900 Location: Trapped inside this octavarium
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Quaich1 wrote: | opelfruit wrote: | Funny that people who have not heard of Japanese whisky think it's the next big thing. It ain't up and coming, it's up and come. I've been drinking the stuff for a few years and it's been getting good press for quite some time. Prices are soaring because of demand, I nearly had a heart attack today when thinking about getting a new bottle of Hakushu 18 and it's about £150! Didn't get one.
For me the next big thing is "Asian" whisky - stuff from India and places like Taiwan (Kavalan anyone?) are really showing what can be done with good spirit, good wood management and careful vatting. Amrut has been constantly blowing me away this year. |
I agree. I first encountered Japanese whisky during some extensive travelling in Japan in 1981. I remember being at a Suntory bar at a highrise rooftop enjoying yakatori chicken and whisky-those were the days.... |
And I wasn't even born yet, not even a twinkle the the eye of my parents _________________ "Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whisky is barely enough." |
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James T Master Of Malts
Joined: 05 Feb 2011 Posts: 2787
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:19 am Post subject: |
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I would love to experiment with the older Japanese whiskies but the price puts me off. What i have had has been good but there is just as good for less from Scotland.
Murray how does the Japanese whisky prices compare to Scotch prices in Canada |
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts
Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5740 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:48 am Post subject: |
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James T wrote: | I would love to experiment with the older Japanese whiskies but the price puts me off. What i have had has been good but there is just as good for less from Scotland.
Murray how does the Japanese whisky prices compare to Scotch prices in Canada |
Hi James. Here's an idea as to what some Japanese expressions go for here in Ontario. There is not a huge selection overall of Japanese product. It is actually very limited. It is difficult therefore to compare Japanese to Scotch prices since the LCBO does sell some very expensive single malt scotch and the Japanese offerings here are low and medium range price offerings. The single malt from Japan that I have had the most is Nikka Yoichi 10 Year and it's excellent. The Yoichi would stand up to most standard single malt scotch at the same price point.
Nikka Single Malt Miyagikyo 15 Year Old
$189.20
Nikka Yoichi 10 Years Old Single Malt Whisky
$114.85
Nikka Pure Malt White
$74.95
Nikka Taketsuru Pure Malt 12YR Whisky
$74.40
Nikka Taketsuru Pure Malt 17 Year Old
$116.
The Yamazaki 12 Years Old Single Malt Whisky
$69.95 _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
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whiskyjapan New Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2014 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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opelfruit wrote: | Funny that people who have not heard of Japanese whisky think it's the next big thing. It ain't up and coming, it's up and come. |
It has up and come, and gone and left! (in terms of buying interesting releases without breaking the bank) _________________ http://instagram.com/whiskyjapan
https://twitter.com/whiskyjapan |
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xcompl Single Malt Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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anyone tried The Yamazaki 18? I really like the 12yr, not sure if the 18 is worth it. |
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opelfruit Master Of Malts
Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 1900 Location: Trapped inside this octavarium
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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xcompl wrote: | anyone tried The Yamazaki 18? I really like the 12yr, not sure if the 18 is worth it. |
I don't think it's worth the current prices, gone up way too much. I prefer the Hakushu 18 personally anyway.
If you want older Japanese whiskies your best bet is blends or vatted malts. Both the Hibiki 17 and Taketsuru 17 are great and a lot cheaper than the Yamazaki. They are still worth the price.
If you want single malt then the Yoichi 15 is a good halfway house, thick and sherried with a touch of peat and it's not too pricey. _________________ "Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whisky is barely enough." |
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xcompl Single Malt Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I cant find any Hibiki in stores now, they use to have them but now for some reason they are gone. Did you ever try the Kaurizawa? I hear they are hard to come by since they no longer produced |
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xcompl Single Malt Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:35 am Post subject: |
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found Nikka 21 Pure Malt for $143, will see what this is like |
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munter Single Malt Member
Joined: 31 Jul 2015 Posts: 28
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Just found some Yoichi 10 for a reasonable price. Getting hard to find now though so stocking up for a few years of Japanese whisky drought. I'm sure that production has been scaled up and this is just a temporary blip! |
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